Page limit?


I have an LG G pad 7.0 that runs Android 4.4.2.
I had created a script online using WriterDuet (about 90 pages) and downloaded it as a .fountain file. Then emailed to myself and managed to save it to my tablet and open it in the Dubscript app.
I'm able to view all 90 pages in the VIEW setting, but it cuts off (in the middle of a word) in the WRITE setting at about the 10 page mark. And I'm unable to add anything from there. I type and nothing happens on the screen.
Did I do something wrong when I tried to upload an already-existing .fountain file to the app rather than create it from there?

So there shouldn't be any page limits built-into the app. I'm not familiar with WriterDuet or what format it uses, but fountain files are plain-text files. It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong, but just in case, here are some thoughts/questions:

* Are you fully scrolled to the end of the file? I know this might be obvious, but just want to make sure-- if the text is appearing on the left (view) side, but not the right, this is very unusual because the app displays Fountain files by taking what's on the right and generates the view on the left from that source. So it has to be there, but maybe you're not fully scrolled down? Make sure you've hit the down arrow to the end and/or scrolled all the way to the right with the slider. I know, obvious but just want to be sure...

* Is it possible that WriterDuet is using a non-text format-- perhaps including some kind of "hidden characters" such as a null or other character that may confuse the Android text editor (but not the parser)?

* Are you able to open/view the email that was sent to you with a generic text editor and confirm that the entire thing is included in its normal format?

* Can you try copy/pasting the file from another application into DubScript? In other words, open the file in another text editor-- make sure everything is there-- then select all and copy it. Then start a new script in DubScript and try pasting into the editor-- see if it all appears.

* Question-- if you set the cursor further back in the script and type, will it "push" the text after the cursor forward? I'm trying to figure out if maybe the LG G pad has some kind of error or size limit with the Android text editor?

* I did a quick search to see if I could find any reported errors on that device, and came up with this report, specifically referring to a limit in the LG G pad:

"but on an LG G Pad, text length is limited to 10500 characters ( unicode)."

I wonder if this could be related..? The solution proposed is to use a "textfilter" but I don't think that will work, because such a filter is usually used to filter out unwanted characters-- Dubscript allows you to use any of the standard characters... so I'm not sure what I would filter. I think the text must be there, but somehow it's not allowing you to see it.

Anyway, if you can answer the above questions, I may have a newer version for you to try to see if it works better.

thanks for writing in! Don't worry, it doesn't sound like you're doing anything wrong. It may just be some odd quirk in your tablet that needs figuring out...


it seems like the character limit for the LG is exactly the problem. i'm unable to add anything to the already existing text in order to push the end along - i type, nothing happens. and when i look at the "about" tab, my file has exactly 10500 characters.
and after i messed with the already existing text (i deleted some and typed some), i looked at it in the VIEW setting, it cut off at 10500 characters (same place). i was able to close it without saving, so i didn't lose anything. but now i know that once i try to edit it, it loses everything.

Yikes... that is a really disconcerting limitation.

I'm not sure if you want to replace the entire operating system just to fix this issue--, but here is a version for 7.0 LTE from AT&T.. Does that apply to you? Looks like this would be Lollipop 5.1, a total replacement/upgrade of Android, but assuming it works, I'm betting it would fix the problem. Plus Lollipop might be neat to have.

As for workarounds with the current operating system, you could try breaking the script into portions that fit (not a very desirable solution, I admit). Additionally, if it's the case that only the EDITOR that you would use to edit the script is size limited (and not the actual content or value of the edit area) perhaps a workaround for the moment might be to continue to edit the file using an editor that works (such as not on Android, or perhaps via Google docs) then just as you did before, open the file into DubScript to view or convert to PDF/Final Draft, etc. Another question-- if you load the script (and the full script appears in the "view" area) can you then try to press and HOLD the "save" button in the "write" mode and see if you can export the full file to Final Draft (.fdx) (or similarly try to make a PDF)? Does it create the whole thing or cut off? I'm asking because I'm not sure if this limitation is just related to how the editable text APPEARS to you, or whether it actually affects the full content of the text. If the former, exporting may work, so in that case if you are able to export the file, then the workaround may be simply to avoid the editor and use a different one to create the file. (It may be the ONLY option due to this strange limitation with LG's version of the editor.)

OR... if you feel adventurous and want to update yourself to Lollipop, it looks like that may be an available option. It may be a little scary to contemplate replacing the stock operating system with one that's less LG and more the way Google wants you to experience Android, but it's actually empowering and kind of fun if you feel up to the task :)

I see that someone has made a version of Lollipop/CyanogenMod for the plain "wifi" version of the LG G Pad 7.0 as well. You can learn more at that link.

I wish I could be more helpful, but this seems to be an issue with LG rather than the app itself :/ One last note--- This "subreddit" has more information from owners of your tablet that might be useful, including this news item that says that the lollipop rollout was supposed to come out April 12. Perhaps it's already out and will fix the issue?

Thank you so much for researching all of this. I'm going to attempt to replace the OS (it's from AT&T, so we'll see how it goes). If all else fails, I may need to upgrade to a Samsung or something. I think the LG pad was a part of an AT&T promo, and that's why I got it as a gift.
This is such an awesome app, and I very much appreciate how much effort you put in.

This post is for a user with an LG M1 (tribute 5) who posted about this issue today. As mentioned in the response and as you can see above, LGE introduced this problem on its devices and they have to fix it. As LG customers say above, the problem exists across ALL apps which use the standard text editor .

The best solution is to update your Android software to a version that does not contain this bug. New software may be available from your carrier, or you can look into replacing it yourself. A quick search of updates includes:

As I don't have your specific phone I can't attest to these instructions or replacement ROMs, but I see that they are available. Be sure that whichever version of Android you choose to install, be sure it will work with your mobile carrier.

If you have any questions, let me know. Sorry about this bug, but it's a limitation of the underlying operating system itself which was specifically introduced by LGE, possibly as a means to reduce memory usage on older phones that was never removed on more modern ones. So there's not much any individual app developer can do.

If you have a second Android device-- the latest RC12 of DubScript allows you to write on one device and read on another via the cloud-- perhaps you can write on that second device? Or write on Google Docs and then copy/paste into DubScript on the 2nd Android device for outputting to PDF or FDX if those are your final formats.

As LGE (and carriers) updates their phones to newer versions of Android, they hopefully will eliminate this bug. It's my understanding that newer LGE phones don't have this issue.

Best of luck!